How To Find The “Market Value” of Vacant Land

real estate investor's guide to valuing vacant land

One of the biggest obstacles every land investor has to wrestle with is how to find the “market value” of vacant land.

It may seem like an odd dilemma to a conventional real estate investor but trust me – if you've ever tried to find comps or relevant valuation data for a parcel of raw land, you know how challenging it can be to nail down a concrete value for this type of real estate.

Especially for those in the land flipping business, it presents a MAJOR challenge, because the conclusions we draw about this number will affect everything else in the process, and most of the data we need simply isn't there.

Understanding How Appraisals Work

Before we get into the complexities of valuing land, let's establish a fundamental understanding of how real estate appraisals work.

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In the vast majority of real estate transactions (especially when financing is involved), buyers and lenders will hire a professional appraiser to verify the value of the real estate being purchased and/or financed. The appraiser will put together a comprehensive report that considers three key valuation approaches:

  1. The Income Approach
  2. The Cost Approach
  3. The Sales Comparison Approach 

These are widely considered to be the most reliable methods of determining a property's market value. In most cases, an appraiser will use at least two (if not all three) of these methods to come up with their final conclusion. Here's a quick overview of how each of them works:

Income Approach

The idea behind this approach is to determine the amount of ongoing income (i.e. – rent or lease revenue) the subject property can be expected to produce. In order to determine this number, an appraiser will look at the “market rent” in the area. In other words, what are similar properties currently being rented or leased for in the same market? The appraiser will look at several similar properties (while also considering their size, location, condition, amenities, etc.) in order to get an idea for the amount of revenue the subject property could feasibly produce.

Cost Approach

With this approach, the appraiser will try to determine what it would cost to rebuild the exact same structure from the ground up. The appraiser will figure out an estimated cost of construction, based on today's prices (minus depreciation, plus land) and use this to come up with a measurement of the property's value.

There are a lot of big assumptions that live inside this approach (namely, the cost of building materials, and the assumption that nobody will ever pay more for a property than the cost of the improvements). The cost approach is an important consideration – but it's almost never sufficient to use this approach all by itself to determine a property's fair market value.

Sales Comparison Approach

With this valuation method, the appraiser will look at the recent sales figures of similar properties in the area (i.e. – the prices that similar properties have sold for in recent history). With this approach, the appraiser is making the general assumption that a normal buyer will not pay more for the subject property than others have recently paid for similar properties in the same area.

Appraisers will only consider the data from properties that have actually been sold because these are concrete numbers and (in theory) they represent real purchase prices that have been paid. Appraisers usually find this data from various public records, real estate agents, other appraisers, etc.

The Problem With Land

These valuation approaches usually work fairly well for houses, apartments, commercial buildings and the like, but vacant land is a completely different story.

In the vast majority of cases, the data needed to draw these conclusions for a vacant lot simply isn't available.

The Income Approach typically doesn't apply, because unless the property is being leased to a farmer or hunter, or is generating income by some other means, it is highly unusual for a vacant lot to generate any kind of regular income.

The Cost Approach doesn't apply, because by nature of the fact that it's vacant land, there are no improvements to take into consideration.

The Sales Comparison Approach may apply, but only if there are enough sold comps to take into consideration (and many times, there aren't). In most cases, there are FAR fewer sales comps available for land than for houses and other improved properties… and even when the comps do exists, they are much harder to quantify than improved property. Looking at different vacant lots is hardly an “apples to apples” comparison, and it's a very imperfect science at best.

It's a frustrating dilemma for land investors because it's extremely important for us to understand a property's market value. This number drives everything else in the process (the offer price, the cost of property taxes, holding costs, closing costs, the profit margin when selling, etc.).

If we can't be certain about a property's market value, we'll have to live with some level of ambiguity – and ambiguity is never ideal, especially when you're investing a lot of money into a property you can't afford to be wrong about.

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What Drives Land Value?

iStock_000014173651XSmallUnfortunately, there is no “magic bullet” when it comes to valuing land. As any real estate appraiser can tell you, it's virtually impossible to reach the point of 100% certainty about any property's market value of a property, and that's especially true for unimproved land.

The good news is, there is almost always a way to get reasonably comfortable with a “ballpark value” on a property, even with raw land.

While it's not a black and white valuation approach by any stretch, there are a number of reliable measurements you can use to get confident with the value of a prospective property before you sink any of your own money into it.

When I'm seriously evaluating a potential land investment, I start by looking at several different factors and asking myself, “How important will these factors be to my end buyer?”

How is the property zoned?

What can the land be used for? Can someone use it to build a house? Office Building? Factory? Is it best suited for farming? Hunting? Mining? Make sure you understand what your (or the future buyer) will be allowed to do with the property in accordance with the local zoning and planning requirements.

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In many cases, a property may be useful (and even the zoning may allow) for more than one purpose, and that's worth considering too.

How much inventory is available on the market?

Is this a one-of-a-kind property or are there hundreds of others exactly like it on the market right now?

If you own land with an incredible location (or view, or access, or resources, etc.) unlike any other in the area, that's probably worth something.

However, if your property is one of a hundred others exactly like it, and all of which are currently listed for sale – that will make it much harder to sell your property at a premium price.

What are similar properties listed for in the near vicinity?

Pretend for a moment that you are the owner of this property you're evaluating.

If you listed this property for sale today, what kind of “selling competition” would you have to deal with in the immediate vicinity?

If you're able to acquire the subject property for the price you want, will you be able to re-list it, and list it at a price that is significantly higher than what you paid for it, AND exceedingly lower than all the other properties in the area? This is how you make money as a land flipper, and it's another key consideration in determining what you should be willing to pay for a parcel of vacant land.

RELATED: How Much Should You Offer For That Property?

How desirable is the property?

Think of this as the “common sense” approach.

The first time you saw this parcel of land, what was your first impression? Did anything about it look interesting, desirable, appealing or attractive? Be honest with yourself – was there anything sexy about it? Is it likely to catch anyone else's interest? Are you looking at a gorgeous, wooded, mountainside lot – or is it a dry, barren, hostile wasteland?

If you go through the effort of creating a great property listing, how beautiful will you be able to make this property look? Can you give buyers an offer they can't refuse?

What are the holding costs associated with the property?

Suppose you buy a parcel of land and you aren't able to re-sell it immediately. What if you have to hang onto it for 6 months? 12 months? 2 years? If you're forced to hold onto this property for longer than you want to, how much will it cost you (e.g. – property taxes, association fees, assessments, etc.)? Can you afford it? Is it worth the risk?

Does the property have road access?

When you're dealing with vacant land, this one is a biggie, and it has huge implications for what a property is worth.

It's always important to verify that a vacant lot has road access (or some kind of legal easement) so the owner (be it you, or your future buyer) can actually get to it. If it doesn't have any access points (and believe me, there are a surprising number of vacant lots that don't), your property might as well be on the moon. Make sure the property has legal access – and if you do decide to roll the dice on this kind of property, make sure you're paying almost nothing for it.

What is the size, shape & dimensions of the property?

Think about what this property might be used for some day. Is the parcel big enough? Does it have an odd shape? Is it located next to anything that would significantly decrease its desirability? Take a mental note of any red flags that you run into… these can be serious issues that will influence the property's value.

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How close is this property to the local conveniences and amenities?

Consider what kinds of amenities or local attractions will be available to the owner of this property. Will they have a grocery store across the street or will they have to drive 3 hours to get there? Will you be able to market the property's location as a good thing?

This one is closely related to the property's desirability and it's highest and best use. If the property's most obvious use is to build a single-family house, park a mobile home or hold any kind of residence, then this metric becomes even more important to consider.

What do the adjoining properties look like?

The properties next door can have some major implications for the value and “sale-ability” of a parcel of land (e.g. – Think about it, would you rather live/work next to Glacier National Park or a Meth Lab?).

Most people care a great deal about who their neighbors are, so try to get a good idea for how the surrounding properties could impact the desirability of your property. If the adjoining properties have any obvious issues that are beyond your control, you'll want to think carefully about what this means for the property's value.

Is the property situated in a flood zone?

When properties are located within a flood zone, the cost of flood insurance can be very expensive, and this added cost of property ownership can have a BIG negative impact on the feasibility of building improvements on the property. To get an idea for whether a property is situated within a flood zone, check out the FEMA website or FloodTools.com and do a property search to see if your property is situated within or nearby a flood zone.

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Land Valuation Hacks

Even though the data for vacant land appraisals is sparse in most areas, there are still some alternative approaches that can help you zero in on a realistic value of the property you're evaluating. Here are a couple of tricks I use on a regular basis…

Scour the MLS

Note: Since this video was published, Trulia was acquired by Zillow (and Zillow has made some BIG improvements to their database of land sales comps). If you head on over to Zillow, you can use this exact same process to find current land listings AND recent land sales comps in your area. You can also use Redfin to determine approximate market values in the same way (but with better options for data analysis), as I explain in this blog post.

This approach is far from perfect (for obvious reasons), but it does do one thing quite well…   it will inform you of what kind of competition you're dealing with (and what those sellers are hoping to get out of their property). In other words – if you were to list your subject property for sale in this market today, what other listings would you have to compete against?

Take a minute and do the math. Once you understand what price your property will have to be listed for in order to look like the best deal on the market, this will give you a better perspective for the property's potential value in contrast to what's currently available on the market (because if you're offering the best deal and advertising it well, it will theoretically be the first one to sell).

Price Boss Valuation Calculator

If you want to take this a few steps further, another clever way to go through this exercise with a property valuator called Price Boss (as I explain in much greater detail in this blog post). Price Boss allows you to copy and paste the raw data in any market from websites like Zillow, LandWatch, and Craigslist and ultimately, come up with a much more data-driven decision.

This video explains how it works…

Note: As mentioned above, you can help support this site AND get a $100 discount on Price Boss Pro if you use coupon code RETIPSTER during the checkout process. Enjoy!

Check Out Price Boss Here

Price Boss isn't a “magic bullet”, but it's A LOT better than simply going with your gut after seeing a few vaguely similar listings in the area.

Just like any calculator or spreadsheet, the reliability of Price Boss depends greatly on the quality of the information you start with, but if you're smart about how you work with the information, it can be helpful in giving you a lot more confidence about what land values are in any given area.

Contact Local Real Estate Agents

Again, this is far from a foolproof method, but it does help to “tell the story” of what your subject property may be likely to sell for.

It's certainly helpful to look at market data on your computer, but there's a whole other level of value that comes from picking up the phone and calling a few local real estate agents.

When I find a local agent that actually has some experience selling vacant lots in the area, I ask them something like this…

“Suppose I owned this property free and clear and I wanted to list it for sale with you today. What price would I have to list it for in order to sell it within 6 months?”

This kind of statement tells the agent a couple of things:

  1. You're looking for a realistic idea of what it will take to sell this property quickly. You're serious about getting this thing sold, and you want some honest answers.
  2. If this agent helps turns out to be legitimately helpful, you may actually want to hire them for the job! This will encourage them to give you the time of day and offer up some legitimate answers.

As you're having these conversations, pay close attention to the prices they suggest. If they throw out some numbers that clearly aren't going to work for you, now is the time to figure that out (instead of after you've already bought the thing).

Another thing to keep in mind is that you might actually want to hire one of these people to list this property in the future. It doesn't hurt to start reaching out and making connections with agents on the front end like this. Their services might actually come in handy.

My primary warning would be this: Don't put too much faith in any ONE agent's opinion. There are a lot of clueless real estate agents out there, especially when it comes to vacant land. If you decide to go through this exercise, make sure you're getting input from at least 2 or 3 agents (the more the merrier).

Recognizing Hidden Value

In some cases, the value of a property is a little harder to recognize.

On paper, there may not be much value in the property's location, or what it can be used for, but there is still a great deal of value in what is growing on it.

Keep an eye out for any value that can be yielded by harvesting timber. If you notice that a property is situated in a densely wooded area, this may be worth investigating further. A professional forestry consultant can help you get an idea of what timber on a piece of land is worth.

Also keep in mind, depending on a number of factors, removing trees has the potential to enhance or detract from a property's value and usefulness. In some cases, clearing the land (or choosing the right areas to clear) can make a property more readily usable for development. In other cases, dense tree coverage can foster wildlife and make a property more useful for recreational purposes.

RELATED: TIMBER! A Guide to the Harvesting of Trees

Another potential point of value is the property's mineral rights (which aren't always automatically transferred to a new owner with the surface rights).

Surface rights are exactly like they sound – they are your rights to own and use the surface of the land. Depending on what type of property you own, the surface rights allow you to develop the land in accordance with the local zoning and planning ordinance.

Mineral rights apply to anything that exists beneath the surface. This includes coal, natural gas, oil or any other commodity that can be mined. If your land is situated in an area with these energy resources, and if you own the mineral rights to your land, you can either sell them or lease them to an interested party. Both options have their pros and cons, and you can make money by either collecting royalty interest or working interest. It will be up to you to decide which one you prefer.

RELATED: What Every Land Investor Should Know About Mineral Rights

When a property has value to offer in the form of timber or untapped minerals, this added value oftentimes isn't accounted for simply by looking at the basics like size, shape, location, zoning and similar listed properties in the area. There can real value at stake when a parcel has rich natural resources, and these can present some great opportunities that many other land investors will overlook.

An Appraiser's Perspective

ryan lundquist appraiser profileNow that you've heard a land investor's take on this issue, I wanted to dig a bit deeper and get an appraiser's perspective on how they evaluate vacant land.

I reached out to Ryan Lundquist (founder of the Sacramento Appraisal Blog and a certified appraiser in the State of California) to get his input on how he would approach the task of valuing land.

When it comes to real estate valuations, this guy's word carries a lot of weight, because he is working in this world every day. As a professional appraiser, he understands how to approach this process using the conventional standards that are well-established in the real estate industry.

Here is a summary of a Q&A interview we put together on this topic…

What are the most important factors you look at to determine the value of a vacant land property?

It’s honestly not easy to determine a ballpark value for a piece of land because there are so many factors to consider (as we'll get to below). Plus, since I hold a state license to appraise property, I  have to actually support the values I give – whether I'm giving a verbal “ballpark” value or a full, written appraisal. I am essentially liable for any value I give, so that is why it can be challenging when people call me and say, “I don’t need a full appraisal, but just a quick value.” I get what people are asking, but since I actually have to support the value I give, it is more involved on my end.

Let's talk about location, zoning, and topography. Why are these things important? What about these three factors would cause a property's value to go up or down?

Everyone knows real estate is about location. A site next to a toxic dump, for example, probably isn't going to fetch high dollars, but a vacant lot in an upscale neighborhood is going to be worth much more.

That beings said, not all vacant lots are created equal and this is where zoning comes in to play. Zoning helps tell us what the site can be used for legally. This means if a vacant lot was zoned for residential housing and it could be split into four buildable lots, that might carry much more weight than a lot that isn't buildable at all (for whatever reason). On the other hand, if zoning would only permit a property for industrial use, it’s worth considering whether that use can be fully realized in the current market. In other words, is it a good market to improve an industrial lot?

Lastly, the topography is crucial. Two separate lots might have the same exact size on paper, but if one of them is on a steep incline and has very little buildable space, the lot that is actually useable could be worth much more.

In your opinion, is vacant land a difficult type of real estate to value? If so, why?

It sometimes feels difficult because there are definitely fewer comps. Sparse data always makes for more challenging valuations. Since the bulk of my work involves lots that have already been improved, that is definitely part of why it takes me longer.

(Note: When the data is available, this is the kind of visual context that Ryan likes to provide for his clients)

When an appraiser nails down the value of a vacant parcel of land, how much deviation (or “lack of reliability”) do you think there is on this number and why?

It honestly depends on the appraiser and how good the report is. There is no real “standard” end-all answer to this question. The reader of an appraisal report will have to sniff out whether it seems legitimate or not. Does the report tell a compelling story of value so that the value makes reasonable sense?

How much weight and importance would you give to the following factors?

The property's assessed value:

I suppose it really depends on how good the assessment is. Some areas may be better than others. However, one important consideration is that assessments in my area at least are based on when the property was purchased instead of the current market value. This means an assessment for a piece of land purchased 15 years ago might show a profoundly lower value than what the current market is willing to pay. Personally, I pay almost no attention to the assessment for this reason.

The listed prices of similar lots in the area:

I think the list price for similar properties can say something about value, though sometimes listings are out-of-sync with the market. I do pay attention to them (as well as pending and withdrawn transactions), but it’s always important to judge each one on its own – and determine whether it says something about the market or not. I do want to know how much interest similar properties have had from buyers when exposed to the open market and [it also helps to know] how many days they spent on the market too. It can be telling if listings aren’t selling at a certain level or if they’re fetching a lot of interest at a certain price.

The amount of inventory (of similar properties) on the market:

This is important because when there is more inventory in a market, it tends to water down the price (due to the increased competition). This is basic economics. When there is more supply than demand, prices will inevitably come down.

For the typical land investor who is trying to nail down a “ballpark value” of a vacant lot (WITHOUT ordering an appraisal), are there any common valuation mistakes or dangerous misconceptions they should watch out for?

I would say to make sure you are comparing apples to apples. One lot might look very competitive on paper, but when driving by or at least viewing it on Google “Street View”, differences can become apparent. I would also recommend talking with the city to ensure the land use and zoning are understood. I say this because sometimes information provided in Tax Records may not be accurate. The definitive word should come from the planning department instead of published records that may not have been updated in years.

It's An Art, Not A Science.

Believe me, I would LOVE to give you a crystal clear approach to valuing land that will always work, every time – but I'm there is no such thing (and if anyone tries to tell you otherwise, I'd be highly suspicious of whatever they're trying to sell you). The fact is – even an appraiser's opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. When we're talking about real estate (or any other product or service, for that matter), the final rule is this:

It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

The data (when available) can give us a halfway decent idea on this, but that isn't something you should be your life on. At the end of the day, the value is mostly contingent on finding the right buyer, for the right property, at the right time. Extracting the most value from any piece of real estate is an art, not a science.

Value Land

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When it comes to determining the value of land – the best you can do is perform a reasonable amount of research. Take the time you need to carefully consider the items listed above. Dig up whatever data you can find with tools like AgentPro247, look at other locally listed properties on Zillow and use the best, most unbiased judgment you can manage.

At the end of the day, if you're making offers that are low enough, you should be able to protect yourself from most of the inescapable risks of land investing.

Due to the difficulty of getting perfect valuations, you should be giving yourself a healthy buffer to help to offset any errors in judgment that you might be making along the way. This is the way I've been doing it for years, and even though I haven't always done it perfectly, I've never gotten in over my head – and that's something most real estate investors can't say for themselves.

About the author

Seth Williams is a land investor and residential income property owner, with hundreds of closed transactions and nearly a decade of experience in the commercial real estate banking industry. He is also the Founder of REtipster.com - a real estate investing blog that offers real world guidance for part-time real estate investors.

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  1. Ryan Lundquist says:

    What a thorough post, Seth. This is sincerely good stuff. I think you’re trying to provide the definitive post on what to think about when hunting for land. 🙂 Anyone interested in land should get a better background after reading through your post. I really appreciate getting to pitch in a few thoughts too. Thank you for the opportunity.

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Thanks Ryan! I’m really glad you took the time to help me out with this post. You’ve got some great insights that are really important for investors to think about

    2. Bob Foster says:

      It’s rare, but I have bargained for discounts on groceries (a case of catfish to be exact) and have asked department store managers for discounts (usually on a scratch and dent or open box kind of item). And yeah, few people expect to pay asking price for a car.

      Lots of stores make a lot of money selling you extended warranties on consumer electronics. Best Buy is hurting because more people decided they weren’t worth the money. (bizjournals.com) A mop and glow special for your big screen TV would be a bit of a stretch, lol.

  2. Hichem says:

    This is exactly what i’ve been looking for. I sent postcards last week and got my first calls from sellers yesterday but I’m stuck trying to figure out how much to offer. This will be really helpful. Great post Seth! Thank you!

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Awesome! I’m glad I could help Hichem! Thanks for letting me know.

  3. office space on rent in pune says:

    the locality and access to the roads depends the most according to me for pricing a land..

  4. Colin says:

    You bring a perspective that I never thought of. Is there any way you could teach me your ways?!?! Jk. But seriously!

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Thanks Colin – I appreciate the positive feedback. That means a lot!

  5. Adrian Goram, NHI Properties says:

    Overall,
    Very informative article. However, there are two talking points I think must be addressed:
    1. FLOOD STATUS: especially in waterfront areas
    2. INSURANCE: especially in waterfront areas

    When you look at other comps, these 2 items must be addressed

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Great points Adrian, thanks for those suggestions! I’ll add them both to the list of points above.

  6. John Cusack says:

    Great information. Thank you. Can you direct me to an appraiser in Riverside County to appraise a 35 acre undeveloped parcel in Sycamore Springs. Proprty has well and electricity.

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Hi John! Thanks for the comment. I don’t know any appraisers in that area, but you could just as well do a Google search and I’m sure you’ll find someone qualified to do the job.

      Good luck!
      Seth

  7. Heather says:

    Hi Seth,

    Awesome post, very informative! Quick question for you about access…if it’s not obvious on google earth, maps, etc. and isn’t noted on a property report or otherwise, is there an easy way to confirm access to a property?

    Thanks for any insight you can offer!

    -Heather

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Hi Heather, my only other suggestion (short of calling the county to find out directly from them) would be to use this trick with the county’s GIS system to see what you can find out.

      1. Heather says:

        Thanks for the prompt reply! I kind of figured that was the case but thought I’d check to make sure. Thanks again!

  8. Jho says:

    Great post! I agree 101% that appraisal is an art and not science. Although there are parameters that appraisers use in valuing a property, it is still subjective. Reasoning is the key in order to have some objective sense.

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Definitely! Glad to see you agree Jho!

  9. savannah says:

    Seth-phew, thank you…I have a mt parcel that I bought in the decades ago after touring CO to find a great site…One of the KEY factors in my search was accessability, views, and WATER…because lots of wonderful mt properties have great trees, and views, but back when I was looking NO well permits. So here I am trying to sell this property. It still is GORGEOUS, I am one of the few that wasn’t able to build due to finances. It has a well, electricity tap on the road, no flooding, all the beauty and splendor of WHY you buy in the mts. But trying to get a price on it -man such a pain. I want what the tax assessor has as value, plus recent taxes paid, or highest offer-which is a STEAL, but I am NOT taking what I paid for it decades ago, that is STUPID. It is one road. It was subdivided for recreational/residential use in the late 80’s. Just over 5 acres. The turnover on it is pretty slight, mostly original owners when it was made available yrs ago. Beautiful homes and cabins on it on the HIGHER end, and if I asked them to sell for what they built for decades ago they would slap me. How does one market and get interest???? I want CASH. The local realty in the area the good one closed, the one available, NOT impressed with.

  10. Hari says:

    Hi Seth,

    Thanks a lot for this valuable article. Gives good idea to someone completely new to investing in land. Really appreciate it. Wondering if you could tell me if there are any specific websites about searching for Commercial/Agricultural land?.
    Thank you.

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Hi Hari! Check out http://www.landwatch.com – that’s the best place I know of.

      1. Hari says:

        Thanks a lot. Hopefully I can buy something good soon.

  11. Raj says:

    Really informative article. Thx so much

    1. Seth Williams says:

      You bet Raj! Thanks for checking it out.

  12. Fred Inman says:

    Good comments , I was fascinated by the specifics . Does someone know if my assistant could possibly find a blank a form version to edit ?

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Hi Fred – thanks for checking out the article! Just to clarify… a blank form version of what to edit?

    2. janiece laureano says:

      Hi Fred, my colleague used a fillable a form version at this site https://goo.gl/SBp4g3.

  13. Randy S says:

    Hi Seth,
    I’ve come across a few situations where a Public Utility is seeking an easement across vacant land (either ROW or facilities). 90% of the time the land is not ideal/suitable for Residential or Commercial purposes. How would someone go about determining the value of land to be used for the Easement area? I had considered the assessed value, but your article doesn’t agree with this approach which I can understand why.

    Any Ideas?

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Hi Randy, in that specific situation, I could see how the assessed value would be an appropriate number to go by. That being said, I’m not sure how you’d be compensated by a utility company for this kind of thing – so it’s hard to say.

  14. Trish Fredrich says:

    We are trying to buy property for a ranch that years ago had been used for hay, however there is not a bit of usable seed left! Animals there have to be feed. When I got an appraisal he included a $1,000 an acre for “hayable” land and the same for the well. However having known the son of the farmer the hay field was watered by a spring 2 properties over which we have been unable to find water rights for! So I cannot go to the adjourning neighbor [a rich city slicker!] and say oh by the way I’m going to go do work on your property so I can get more water!
    Also there are abandoned condemned building on it… which he did not deduct for!
    I don’t understand his reasoning! I look forward to your response!
    THANK YOU!

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Hi Trish – I’m not sure I understand it either. Have you tried talking to the appraiser about it? He might be able to explain it further. I know the decisions and rationale in appraisals can be frustrating sometimes, especially when it has a negative effect on your financing and/or what you’ll be able to do with it. I wish you all the best on figuring this out!

  15. Hakim says:

    Hi Seth, I had a quick question about the assessed value that you see on the county assessor website when looking up a parcel.

    If I want to send out blind offers to potential leads from a tax delinquent list, and in those blind offers I put an offer amount of 10% of the assessed value from the county, do you think this approach has much merit? mainly as a quick and easy way to save time (instead of going thru a list of hundreds of parcels for blind offers)

    another related question, i always hear that market value is greater than (county) assessed value. is it safe to say then that the published assessed value can be used as a “minimum floor” for possible market value, in other words we shouldn’t expect market value to be lower than it (unless something happens like a recent natural disaster etc) ??

    I’d love to hear your thoughts on these questions! Thanks again…

    1. Seth Williams says:

      Hi Hakim – sure, the blind offer approach can definitely work. I actually wrote a pretty in-depth blog post about the pros and cons of that blind offer method right here.

      If you do try that, you’ll want to be sure you understand what “assessed value” means in the state where you’re working… because it means something different everything. Sometimes it’s half the property’s value, sometimes it’s some other multiple of it. I wouldn’t necessarily just consider the assessed value a “floor”, I would call the county and literally ask them, “How should I translate the assessed value? Is this a certain percentage of a property’s supposed value, or is there some other logic applied to this number?” (something like that).

      Good luck!

  16. Joe says:

    Hi Seth.
    I made a cash offer of $41,500 on 1.2 acres of partialy cleared land in a residential neighborhood in Stocton PA. near Hazleton. The offer was accepted, and I put ten percent down on it. The asking price was $49,900 and I couldn’t talk him down any farther than $41,500. The lot is on level ground with seuer and electric hookup but no water. I know the owner paid $34,000 for it in October of 2015, cleared the trese last Summer, and listed it last August. There is an uncleared lot next to it for sale at a price of $36,000 that has been on the market since last June. Even though I have $4000 down, I’m re-thinking going through with closing which is in 2 weeks, as I think it may be over priced. He won’t give me the down payment back, and if I terminate the contract, I’ll lose that. However. Another reason I’m thinking of canceling, is, my continued research tells me its going to be more expensive to build and live there than I thought. My big mistake was not completing all my research before I made the offer. I was thinking of putting a turnkey modular home on the lot. Also. Since I made the downpayment, I’m finding I’m not going to have the help that I thought was available to move. I’m 63, totally blind and can’t do all of the organizing and packing myself. Also since starting this process, I’m realizing I like it here. I own the home I live in. Its old, but has allot going for it. I wanted to move to have more property space for antennas for my hobby. I’m a ham operator. Because of the closeness of homes to each other here, I’ve also been having serious interference problems with a neighbor that caused me to make this decision, but that’s not quite as bad as its been. So as I see it, I now have three options. 1, terminate the contract and lose the downpayment, 2, buy the land and try to flip it, or 3, buy the land, sell my home and get my dream house. I asked the realtor if he thought I could break even in selling the land if I baught it, and he said he thought I could. What do you think? Do you think I paid to mutch considering the same size uncleared lot just next to it is listed for $36,000. I don’t know what it cost him to clear the trese, I only know he paid $34,000 for the land to begin with. I had my home appraised, and was told it could sell for anywhere from $80,000 to $100,000. A small modular would cost about $150,000. With the money from my home, I could cover that. The land is a mile and a half from here just outside the city. Living here, I have a restaurant just around the corner, and my family Doctors ofice is 50 feet from me, Although I only go once a year. I can also walk to church. About 4 blocks away. But I could get a ride if I moved, and the restaurant delivers. I can walk from here to there and back. I know the area but it would just take longer than from my current location. I guess my biggest question is. If I don’t move, do you think I could break even in selling the land with all I’ve told you. As I said. the only difference in the lot next to it, is the fact its not cleared of trese. Thanks for this web page and your really good articles. The closing is on January 20. Also. Do you think I should ask the seller to get the land appraised before then? Best regards. Joe.

  17. Linda H says:

    Do you avoid non-disclosure states (like Texas) where property sale prices are not public information and only available to those with MLS access? Or do you find that it doesn’t really matter since there often aren’t many sold comps anyway?

    1. Not necessarily – sold comps are pretty hard to come by for vacant land regardless of where you’re working, so I’ve never found the lack of sales data to be a stumbling block that keeps me out of any particular market.

  18. Matt says:

    Hi Seth, I have a different situation and was wondering if you have any advice to offer. My neighbor approached me about purchasing a portion of her property. Because of zoning, this transaction would result in a boundary line adjustment, making her parcel smaller and my parcel bigger, as there isn’t enough land involved to allow for a separate parcel. How would one go about valuing land in this situation? It seems like since it isn’t a lot that could be developed and sold as an investment, maybe it isn’t worth the going rate for bare land in the area? Not to say it isn’t developable, county rules allow for an auxiliary dwelling unit (a mother-in-law home). Any advice for valuing this transaction?

    1. Hi Matt, interesting situation. I think most appraisers in this situation would probably just figure out what the typical sale price is for land on a per acre or per square foot basis and then assign that value to whatever portion of the property you’re looking at purchasing. It’s far from a perfect valuation method, but then again, land doesn’t really have a perfect, fool-proof method to know without a doubt what it’s worth.

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